Kategorier: Alle - responsibility - sovereignty - scripture

av Tim Lovegrove 12 år siden

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John 6:37 key phrases

The passage from John 6:37 has historically sparked significant debate among believers, often dividing them over its interpretation. This division stems from Jesus' discussion on the interplay between human responsibility and divine sovereignty, an intricate concept that challenges complete understanding.

John 6:37 key phrases

John 6:37 key phrases

I can't hide the fact that this is a very controversial passage. And that's not a big surprise, because in Jesus' day this teaching divided his disciples into those who stayed and those who left.

After saying in verse 36 "You don't believe," Jesus then talks about why some people are saved and some aren't.

Not surprisingly, his explanation weaves together human responsibility with divine sovereignty, in a way that is beyond what we are fully able to understand. But we want to fully understand it, and so in the process of trying to understand we often end up skewing the material. So the people on one side of this argument might fully emphasize the divine sovereignty and essentially remove completely the human responsibility or at least opportunity. And the people on the other side explain this passage in wholly human terms, and manage to explain away any divine sovereignty. And then you have war. : - )

To ignore the fact that this is controversial would be idiocy.

One key: try to interpret the passage on its own. Because both sides of this argument claim that there view is the only view that fits with the rest of Scripture. They both say "We know the passage means what we say it means, because that's what the rest of Scripture says." They've got a strong presupposition coming into this passage. After I lay out the two options in this passage, most of the audience will decide that they think it means based on what they believe the rest of Scripture says. Most will say "It has to mean this." But the problem is - we haven't really looked at it. Are we really letting God say what He says if we've made up our mind beforehand about what He will say. It's like talking to a JW or Mormon - presup that Jesus can't be God, and so no matter how clearly I show them from Scripture, it doesn't matter.

Pray:

Free us from foolish speculations

Free us from bickering and bad attitudes

Free us from handling your Word dishonestly

May we see these words of your Son not as a battle ground for purely intellectual bickering, but as words of life for our souls. Sanctify us by your truth; your word is truth.

Maybe this week just give some perspectives on these controversial details on the chart, that will free us to come back in two weeks and look at the big picture and benefit from it all.

The other [emph. sovereignty of God] view

37 Those who come will not at any point be cast out
Those whom God draws
65 Some people are granted by the Father
All who are "granted" to come do come
What they are granted: to come
44 Only some are drawn, which means brought to Christ
All who are drawn come and are saved (raised up)

One [emph. sovereignty of man] view

37 Those who come are not cast out when they come
They might be cast out later
37 Only some people are given to the Son
All who are given come
Those whom God foreknows will believe
65 All people are granted by the Father
Not all who are granted the opportunity come
What they are granted: opportunity to come
44 All people are drawn, which means given opp. to believe
Not all who are drawn come; only those who are drawn and come are raised up
draw = Holy spirit convicts of sin & convinces of need of Savior

65 No one can come unless granted by Father

54 He who eats My flesh/blood has eternal life

47 He who believes has eternal life

45 Everyone who has heard and learned from Father comes to me

44 No one can come unless drawn by Father

will raise him up on last day

37 The one who comes will not be cast out

37 All the Father gives will come